On 27th June 2013 Bharat Mukti Morcha
(BMM), Goa Unit blog www.bharatmukti.blogspot.in
interviewed Cliffton de Souza of Velim,
Salcete after he was arrested and released on bail at Cuncolim Police station
on 26th June 2013 in a case fabricated against him. Cliffton
answers
wide range of questions by which he enters history as subject and not as
object
to be kicked and jostled around by the forces of Bamon Raj. You may also
read up Bharat Mukti Morcha statement condemning Cliffton's arrest in
this fabricated case here. Here is a full text of a short interview with him:
BMM: What you
think are the hidden intentions for your arrest by Goa Police on 26th
June 2013 at Assolna, Salcete, Goa?
Cliffton: To suppress
my voice.
BMM: Why?
Cliffton: So that
I must not talk against the present government and also against Bamons.
BMM: Why you want
to speak against present government?
Cliffton: Because
present government is not favorable for OBC, SC and ST and is supporting only
Bamons.
BMM: Why do you
think this government is doing this discrimination?
Cliffton: Because
ruling people are not original Indians and they want to suppress mulnivasis.
BMM: If they are
not original Indians then how come they are ruling Goa?
Cliffton: Because
before Portuguese rule in Goa Brahmins were ruling Goa and they denied
education to Mulnivasis by applying the rule of Manusmriti.
BMM: Are you
opposed to the rule of manusmriti?
Cliffton: Yes.
BMM: Why?
Cliffton: Because
it denies us the right to education, right to property, right to trade and
right to carry weapons. It denies us our freedom. Manusmriti is Constitution of
Bamon Raj and stands directly opposed to Constitution of India which is also
sabotaged by Bamons.
BMM: So you mean
Manusmriti denies all these rights to everyone?
Cliffton: No.
BMM: Then, who
are denied these rights?
Cliffton: ST, SC,
and OBC
BMM: What about
Christians, Muslims, Sikhs and Buddists; do Manusmriti grants these rights to
them?
Cliffton: No.
BMM: Whom does
Manusmriti grants these rights?
Cliffton:
Brahmins.
BMM: Dr.
Babasaheb Ambedkar publicly burned the manusmriti at Mahad on 25th December 1927 at 9.00 pm for
this very reason. Do you think it should burnt again now in 2013 in Goa?
Cliffton: Yes.
BMM: How do you feel after being arrested and
released on bail?
Cliffton: Feeling
Proud.
BMM: normally
people feel demoralized when they are slapped with police cases and you say you
are feeling proud. Why this arrest does make you proud?
Cliffton: because
this arrest is due to fabricated case against me.
BMM: do you think
it was correct on the part of Goa Police to fabricate criminal case against you?
Cliffton: No.
They fabricated case against me because I am non-brahmin. If I was a Brahmin
they would have never fabricated case against me.
BMM: But there
are so many non-brahmins in Goa. Why case fabricated only against you? Do all
non-brahmins face fabrication of police cases against them?
Cliffton: No. The
case is fabricated against me because I am
talking against Brahmins and the various abusive deeds of their rule like
destruction of environment, land, water bodies, justice to victims like rape
case in Vasco, mining, Vanxim, Tiracol, Aadhaar card, distribution of money at
the elections for getting votes, poor water supply, polluted water supply in
South Goa, Contents of Magnesium in public water supply, Fish Mill, frauds in
Communidade land specially in Canacona Communidade, Food poisoning of Children
through mid-day meals in schools, denial of school bus of certain castes of
OBC, Mopa airport, Casinos, mining, Police, Bearocrats, Romi Konkni, Seafarers
pension etc.
BMM: Why do you
think you should speak on all these issues?
Cliffton: because
Mulnivasi people are affected due to them.
BMM: Who are
Mulnivasis?
Cliffton: ST, SC,
OBC and those from these categories converted and are today Muslims, Christians,
Buddists, Sikh, etc.
BMM: Are you a Mulnivasi?
Cliffton: Yes.
BMM: Which
category of mulnivasi you belong to?
Cliffton: OBC –
Christian.
BMM: In
Christianity there are no castes. How come you call yourself ‘OBC-Christian’?
Cliffton: I live
in India. Indian Constitution is based on caste. If you follow religion you
will not survive. You need to follow Constitution of India.
BMM: What about
so many people who follow religions, are they not surviving?
Cliffton: No. They are arrested and beaten up by
brahmanical forces in India. They are burnt alive.
BMM: You mean to
say people must give up their religions in order to survive?
Cliffton: No.
BMM: Then what?
Cliffton: Freedom
of Religion is Constitutional Right in India and you can survive with your
religion. That is the reason I give more importance to Constitution of India.
If Constitution of India was not there then our country would have been like
Saudi Arabia where only single religion practice is allowed. Because of
Dr.Ambedkar we got the Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Expression. If Dr.Babasaheb
Ambedkar was not born then Christians would have no chance to practice their religion.
BMM: Do you think
that your arrest would affect your movement in any way like will you get demoralized
and will your activities in movement stop?
Cliffton: No.
BMM: Do you think
that Goa Police has degenerated to such a low level to file fabricated cases or
someone else is behind the scene operator?
Cliffton: Some
one else is there behind this fabrication because police have no powers to
fabricate the criminal cases but some one else has instigated them to fabricate
the case against me.
BMM: Who do you
think is the behind the scene operator?
Cliffton: Home
Minister of Goa State who controls Police.